(Incidentally, I drafted the first half of this post, with the original title on 6/30/11)
It's a pretty common occurrance. Some people believe that they are uniquely qualified to declare the truth, and condemn those who don't adhere to their version.
Whether you believe you are on some long-term quest for perfection, or are subject to a once-and-out existence, what are your works in this life?
Have you done your best to help those who are in need, spiritually, and physically? When you administer your version of the truth, is it done in a way that makes people want to investigate further, or does it make people recoil?
The answer to that question will reveal whether or not you are an effective ambassador for the LORD, and his word.
We all believe what we believe, because of our convictions, whether learned from personal study, or through reviewing the works of scholars. We all believe we hold certain truths, that are unassailable...and, some truths are. But, no one reading this has any personal knowledge of God and His will, outside of what they've learned from his word, and through their experience of living life in the created world.
Which is the better use of your time; learning the things we haven't figured out in God's word? Or, condemning other Christians for not believing the few things you believe you know for a certainty? For every person who thinks he has it all figured out, there's another guy who can prove it all wrong.
My point is, we should all be a bit more tolerant to other ideas, and a little less confident about our own.
7/3/11
To Golden Eagles;
If you feel the need to depart on those terms...condemning everyone here, that's your prerogative. I wish you well on your journey.
As a side note, I kept waiting for you to explain your position on reincarnation, Biblically, but you never really did.
It would have been interesting to see how you came to those conclusions.
The Biblical discussion surrounding that argument involves interpreting some Hebrew phrases with pretty subjective meanings
Actually, I can make a Bible-based defense in support of that concept, just as I can make a Bible-based argument against it.
That would have been an interesting subject to discuss
Maybe a little less focus on the influence of demons in the lives of those who offend your piety, would have allowed you to explain the legitimacy of the positions you hold.
So, if you feel our wickedness makes us unworthy discussion partners, I bid you a fond adieu.
But I would offer you this last observation;
If you are so quick to take offense at differences among Christians, and withdraw back in to your own world, how useful can you be in converting a non-believer?
How would a fruitful discussion even begin?
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To Randy Cofield;
I think I can speak for Peter Huff, when I say that your opinions are valued, and welcome, as all are on this forum.
I believe I still speak for both of us, when I welcome any opinion that allows itself to be subject to the same scrutiny as all opinions put forth here. And, when I note that we can all profit from each others' ideas and contributions.
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I want to pass one more thought on to you, Golden Eagles.
Did it ever occur to you that what you were doing to Randy Cofield, was the exact same thing you chided me for doing? You attacked Randy personally. And you were at least as harsh as I am toward Godless Christ-haters on WaPo
According to your own philosophy, Randy Cofield lives up to your standards better than you do. He shook the dust off his feet, and apparently moved on.
You went out with your guns firing.
There was certainly no turning of the cheek toward your enemy
Sunday, July 3, 2011
Farewell, Until We Meet Again
Since RcoField has left the discussion, I don’t think there’s much point for me to stay around. I have this picture in my mind of a frightened (though cuddly) little dog who has scurried away with its tail between its legs. My main goal was to prove that RcoField was a false pastor, in the tradition of the blind leading the blind. I think I succeeded beyond my initial expectations.
What is the definition of a false pastor? It is an individual who has formed an allegiance to a distorted definition of Christ, on the basis of some other motivation than Love, and will lead those who are foolish enough to follow him, into one ditch after another.
Fear of being damned forever, and reaching for the hand of Christ solely to save the self from that (delusional) fate, that is about the most selfish motivation there is. Remember this statement of Christ, that those who seek to save their lives will lose it, but those who give their lives for his sake, shall gain it again? To get back into heaven, the fallen soul must learn to live its life to the Glory of God (not for the salvation of self) and that is what the Teachings of Jesus Christ is about. And one must re-learn how to live life for the Glory of God, BEFORE one is allowed back into heaven. The training period is going on NOW. The learning time is NOW. The time to make your mistakes, and to learn from them is NOW.
Fear is always at the center of selfishness, and that has no place in the heaven world, as fear is always the very thing which refuses to make way for the selfless behavior patterns that are associated with the Reality of God’s Love.
And so we see illustrated in the heart of the false pastor, this fact, that the only motivation that can form an allegiance to something which is actually hated, is FEAR. The false pastor will preach the fear-based doctrine, which has nothing at all to do with the real Teachings of Jesus Christ. He will preach the False christ, leading those who feel comfortable with fear, as the blind leader of the blind, into a box canyon, at the end of which, all of them expecting the gift of salvation to be placed into their hands, will find their hands empty, and yes there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
And most insidiously, the false pastor will preach the false god, indeed, the one who is supposedly so hateful and cruel, that he will condemn billions of souls unto eternal damnation for living the life that he himself gave to them, a life wherein it is impossible, for cultural reasons, for any substantial number of souls to ever come over to the Teachings of Christ. I am speaking of the Buddhist, Islamic, and Hindu rivers of life which God has set in motion, which he populates with billions of people, all of which flow back into the ocean of his own being, O yes, according to Rcofield, to be flushed down the toilet into everlasting damnation.
The only way to sort out that conundrum is to apply the principle of reincarnation, where souls are given numerous opportunities to re-learn how to live their lives to the Glory of God. If you have not thoroughly learned that lesson in the current life, you will be given another opportunity, and another, and another, as necessary (as long as you keep trying, and are sincere in your desire to Honor God above all else.)
I will not be visiting here on a regular basis anymore (unless Rcofield reappears). If anyone has something to say to which they would like me to respond, please email me. My email is noted on my profile page.
Peterhuff, you would do well to study what I have said to you. That is the only thing that will save you from following Rcofield into the dead-end box canyon that I noted above, where you will SURELY find yourself empty handed.
The truth is, you have tremendous worth in the Sight of God. The principle of reincarnation is what your mind needs to get a grasp on the time when you knew you had worth in God. Yes, there was such a time.
And so, as you might imagine, the principle of reincarnation is vehemently opposed by the demonic force, because it keeps the mind of the embodied individual from grasping the truth of the before-time, when you lived in heaven and knew the Love of God personally, a vast domain of life, the memory of which would surely communicate to your soul the truth of your worth before God, long before Jesus Christ ever came on this mission.
The feeling of worthlessness, which both you and Rcofield indulge, again, is a demonic projection. It is a LIE. It is black poison tipped arrow shot into your heart, a wire is attached to the end of it, in a manner of speaking (you have heard of wire guided missiles of course - well there is nothing new under the sun), and the wire leads to a generator, in a manner of speaking, and the demonic presence cranks that generator filling your mind with this cloud of delusion, this sense of worthlessness. It is all a total, complete, and utter lie.
Indeed, you are aware of the teaching that you were made in the Image of God, and yet you cannot find in that any basis for reaching the independent conclusion that you have worth, in fact great worth. Which illustrates this truth, that you have operating in your world, a demonically projected forcefield of FEAR, that does not allow the connections of wisdom to coalesce in your mind, that would enable you to see how YOU are connected to the Image of God, and can lawfully derive worth therefrom. You fear making that connection, because you feel so worthless. Yet it applies to you, but you will never actually know it, or feel it, until you defeat that fear.
Understand that the demonic realm looks at God as a worthless commodity. And they project that profound judgement of worthlessness on God’s Children. In this way, they deny the Child’s access to a brithright of worth in God. This is a fatal obstacle, because accessing one’s birthright of worth in God is the only way to begin the process of re-learning how to live one’s life to the Glory of God. And without re-learning that, the soul cannot be saved.
Clearly, is not this insidious demonic doctrine of worthlessness “shining” through you as a central justification for condemning billions to eternal damnation? If you look at humanity through a lense of worthlessness, it is understandable why you cannot fathom why God would have any reason to save those billions of souls, in as much as they seem worthless to you. Not being able to find value in yourself, makes it easy to overlook value in others, in this case billions of others.
However, at one time, you were actually a citizen of heaven, you had only heavenly friends, and your sense of self-worth reflected the truth, that God created you, clean and pure and noble and selfless, a truly magnificent creature. The same is true for every person on earth, without exception. They all have this before-time reference point. All people, in all cultures.
You need to get free from that cloud of delusion, that false idea of worthlessness and the feelings that go with it, which have encased your mind, in a seamless manner, like an iron helmet, and the only way to get free from that, is to seek the truth of God’s Love from the Real Jesus Christ, in the here and now. You should seek to have your temple flooded with the Light of Paradise NOW (which the heart of Jesus Christ can deliver) that speaks to the truth of God’s Love for you now. And then you need to seek to have that same experience every day of your life, so you will have the evidence of God’s Love every day of your life. This is what is meant by those who love God’s Light. They seek it, as it is the only thing that can wash them clean.
Now, if you believe you have the jewel of salvation in your hand TODAY (which is part of the fraud in which you live), and that you don’t need any of that Cleansing Light in the Present Moment (again, part of the fraud in which you live), then you are the very one for whom it was foretold, that the rich he shall send empty away. (Feeling yourself rich in the certainty of salvation). Even the one found without a wedding garment, who had to be shut out into the domain of outer darkness.
Thanks MrMeaner, for the opportunity to post here. I appreciate it. The demonic realm influences all people on earth who are vulnerable. This is the source of all temptation to sin, even all temptation to trample on the Teachings of Jesus Christ, as you have done yourself, for what you believe are “GOOD” reasons. You need to sort that out, and come into alignment with the Commandments of Christ in every department of your life. This is part of learning how to live our lives to the Glory of God, a lesson that must be learned before we can be allowed back into the heaven world.
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